Episode 40: "LOVER MINDSET MANIFESTO" feat. Quiet Light *PREVIEW — FULL EPISODE ON PATREON*

You are listening to the free version of Cloud Farm. For the full episode, sub to Patriot on Geyser. Swear down. This is going off the record. Our situation is bullshit. We're humans, not pigs. We expect us to live like this. Alex G didn't work with anyone else until his seventh album. Yeah, which is the track that I'm on, actually. Wait, what? the brown Alexa Chung. I haven't told you this? You met like DeMarco. Yeah. What the fuck? Have I not told you this? What the fuck? I don't want to brag, but I was kind of the queen of my high school. I kind of like ran that shit like the Navy. You may have noticed that we're all hiding one hand because that shit is going on the record. I started recording the second you said, I met Adam Friedland. I'm actually going to go to the bathroom. I don't want to talk about this on cloud farm. I'm literally not talking about it. Come on, come on, come back, come back. Oh, I scared him. Nausicaa, I wanna know you. Tell me how it feels. Nausicaa. Shout out Willy. I was watching, you did this interview with an Australian lad that I watched today, where you're talking about the fact that a few songs, I think from Blue Angel, Sparkling Silver, made it to some Spotify playlist, which did a lot for you. What were the songs? Oh my God. And how did you cynically design them to appease the algorithm? That was crazy. I remember it was like my, I had just... I've like moved to New York for like a summer and a lot of things had happened that summer because I was just like playing shows and meeting people. And then I went back to med school in Boston. And I remember like I got like this email notification or something that my song like, you know, that I've stayed had gotten added to like it's like Fresh Vines Experimental or something.

And I, like, did not know what to do. I was like, this is crazy. I was like, my life is changing. Like, the algorithm found me. You know that I've stayed is the name of the song. It's the first song off of Blue Angel, Sparkling Silver. And it's still, like, one of my favorite Quiet Light songs. But the playlist? The Fresh Vines Experiment. Oh, okay. And I was freaking out. And I remember I went to the gym. I don't I don't work out. I don't go to the gym. And I like ran like three miles on the treadmill because I was like, I don't know what to do. And I was like, I just need to work out and not think about this. But I didn't really like do anything to appease the algorithm. But I did write a really funny like I've I never had like before Jack, I never had a team or anything. It was like just me. And I like never knew what to put in the Spotify pitches. And I remember I put like. I was like, this is Caroline Polachek plus Alex G with the voice memos. And that's all I said. And that was enough, apparently. And I don't think that's really accurate at all. I was just listening to both of them a lot. I don't know. It's a stretch. It's a total stretch. It does not sound like that. There's stuff in there, but I wouldn't boil it down to those. It was not accurate. But I was like... Yeah, I was like 22. I was like, whatever. Sometimes you just need to write a name of an artist that the person on the other end is going to recognize. Yeah, I was like people like Alex G, people like Caroline Polchek. I like both of them. I listened to both of them. And there were voice memos. It's cool that you're not like precious about it. I also feel like you're not. A lot of people like take. It's almost like this. I feel like a lot of times people don't even take like immediate issue with it. They take a kind of like received issue with it because they've been taught that to discuss it is like somehow like. like lame or like corny or like off limits or something but i feel like you're like very forthright and forthcoming about your like influences the like stuff that the inputs that you've been entertaining while you're making music whereas like you're kind of like taught also like

As professional journalists that we are, the worst question you can ask a subject is, what are your influences? And it is a funny-ass question. Yeah, definitely. I love that question. Yeah, that's the sense that I get. Well, I feel like I'm first and foremost a music fan before I'm a musician, kind of. Which is something that I've kind of struggled with the more the people listen to my music because I'm interfacing with people whose music I listen to a lot. I like grew up with like Stan Twitter and stuff. So I'm like used to being like a Stan of things, but it's like, you can't be a Stan of the person you're opening and like be normal in the green room. So you have to harass them. No, I, so I like, we'll just play it really cool. I'm just like, yeah, bro. I love that song you put out two years ago. And it's like my top song on Spotify. Hey, Anna Roxanna, I actually hate you. Oh my God. I did that to Anna Roxanna. I was like. I was like, Anne Roxanne, you want to get coffee? And then I was just like, yeah, I love your music. And I have played every single one of her songs on my college radio show two years ago a million times. She loves you. Yeah, she loves it. She's a lover girl. I love her. She's pure of heart. What is a lover girl? Just somebody who views the world in a state of loving things and looking for things to love rather than hate mindset, you know? Christ-like. Christ-like. Anna Roxanne is Christ-like. Christ-like. That's closest to Christ I've gotten. Speaking of people who look like Jesus, how was opening for Cameron Winter? I love Cammy Winter. I love that boy. He's a white people. I love that boy. He's got long brown hair. Yeah. And he's Palestinian. Got Palestinian. No, he's called Cameron Winter. Cameron Winter. Okay. Cameron Winter, I... He's my go. I think he's incredible. It was a dream. It happened like a month ago and I still think about it all the time. And he probably never thinks about it. I just think he's like Leonard Cohen plus Rufus Wainwright plus Mick Jagger.

i mean everybody he's like a modern day he's like a modern day guy it's high praise i i think he's he's gonna be my like most listened to artist this year and that was like meeting him and like quote unquote chopping it up with him was difficult for me because i was like dang i'm a really big fan but um he I think he's kind of scared of his fan base. He like hid in the green room after the show and was like not going out to talk to people. And I think I understand because like his fans are just like super fans. I mean, he has a fan base like I've never seen in this time. Like he really has like a his fans like there were like girls who were like trying to get into the green room after the show. And I was like, I've never seen this happen. Like there was like a girl who was like literally like. There was, like, this guy who was, like, guarding the door and she was, like, literally, like, pushing up against him. And I was like, oh, my God, he has, like, groupies. Whoa. He, like, he's already sold out his roundhouse show, which is in November. Yeah. I mean, it's amazing. And his manager is one of my good friends. I don't know if he's actually my good friend. I've only hung out with him twice, but I like to say that. So he's your best friend. He's my best friend. I hung out with him last week. He's this guy named Willie, and I was talking to him about Cameron. Damn, Rob. Rob. Rob. Come on, man. Jesus. Okay. Tell us about Willie. I'll tell you about Willie. Willie was in Madrid, and so I chopped it up with Willie. and um he uh he was just telling me about he was just telling me about cameron just like kind of like this guy's like is like basically meteoric success story i mean it's kind of like unheard of for someone who um kind of doesn't make tiktok music honestly um Yeah, it's it's amazing. And his show, too. I was like, I remember I opened and then I sat in the back of the theater where the show was happening. The show happened in like an old movie theater. And I like sat like middle of the back row and I was just like watching him and he's playing piano for like an hour and just singing. There's no band. There's no backing tracks. And it was like.

majestic like you majestic casual um it was crazy i was like i was really blown away and like it was just like moving me to tears i was like this guy is like literally mick jagger basically and i just opened for him and like even if i like never talked to him again i will like think about just sitting in the crowd not even opening just like sitting in the crowd and like watching this it was it was like mind-blowing i didn't realize he was doing it just with him and the piano. It's just him. Damn cool. And I like watched him sound check and I was just like, it was just like a crazy sound check I've ever seen. This guy is just like, he's like not even looking at the piano. He's just like singing and I don't know, every venue is like giving him a grand piano each night and he's, it's just him. And I like grew up playing piano. Like I have like a very deep respect for people who are like very good at piano and are good at composing their own things. Cause like. I've always struggled to write things on piano because I had such, like, classical training and was so used to, like, okay, here's this Bach piece, you learn this Bach piece, you play it. There wasn't so much, like, creativity associated with, like, just, like, the piano, not really synthesizers, but just, like, regular piano. And so it was, like, just insane to just watch him do all the stuff with just a piano in his voice. What? Yeah, it's deeply moving. And he's only 22. He's got so much. Really? I thought he'd just been in the game for a second. He's literally 22. And this whole thing just kind of took him off guard. Interesting. Just the sound of his... He doesn't have the voice of a 22-year-old. He's not sound... But you talk to him and you're like, you're 22. But he is like... He's dumb. He's stupid. He's annoying. No, he's not dumb, stupid, or annoying. He just has that like... Dumb, stupid, or annoying. He has that like... He has that vibe of like, you know, like... He's going to go cop supreme straight after the show. He's getting in line. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't know. I'm really looking forward to just like seeing what he does. What was on his rider? He's doing like the like... I don't think there was anything on his rider. There was nothing in the green room. I heard he always gets onion rings. What? Yeah, that's what I heard. Dude, fucking bleep that. Yo, bleep that, bro. Bleep that, bleep that, bleep that.

Can we round out the Cameron Winter glazing with you doing an impression? Yes. Are you ready? Of Drinking Age by Cameron Winter. I don't know if I'm ever gonna stop. Can I cover a different song? Can I cover a different song? What song do I like? Nausicaa. I wanna know you. Tell me how it feels. Nausicaa. That was really bad. I'm going back to America, guys. You need to be a lover, girl. Guys, wasn't that great? Yeah. That was great. That was great. That was great. I'm a constructive criticism girl. It's okay. It's okay. It was kind of bad. I don't do good impressions. I did like... You got a different voice, Cameron Winter, to be fair. Yeah, right? Stick to TikTok. I'll stick to making my little TikTok videos. But I won't be doing a Cameron Winter impression on TikTok. Yeah. Shout out Cameron, though. Great guy. Why not? And shout out Willie. Shout out Willie. Willie is a great guy. Willie, like... Willie in... Stop. Rob is so frisky today. I love it. It's honestly just... Jerk psychosis. Jerk and gold psychosis. We were in Madrid and I wasn't even that drunk or anything. I don't think he was either, but I told him, I was like, if you can just give me... advice I was like if you were me what would you do with your career and he gave me like the craziest he gave me like five points and they were actually the most like craziest like you're I'm gonna blow up your life type pieces I can't share the secret across the table wait you're keeping it a secret I'm keeping it a secret because it was insane and I was like you literally want me to blow up my life and I kind of think you're right but

It was really fucked, and we were just walking around Madrid, and then he was like, okay, so I have to go home now. And I was like, oh, you just dropped a bomb on me. Willie. Willie. Oh, I thought you were trying to work. Okay. No, not Cameron. Cameron gave me career advice, too, but it was... Always put onion rings on the ride. It was different. It was a different perspective. Yeah. Can you tell us what they are if we blew them out? Yeah, of course. What are they? oh dang no but back on the record though this is nothing to do with what you just said but i was wanting to ask you this anyway um do you like how how how much money do you think you have in the kind of like the bedroom pop persona you know what i mean like do you is is is it like important to you to go beyond that or is it important for you to stay in that lane or like both you know i don't know i mean i think i'm sort of taking it i the thing is i could do what i'm doing like this whole bedroom ambient type thing i could do that forever like i think that so easy it's so easy the ideas are endless i can just go to a different bedroom is the thing like it's there's a lot of things that i can do but i think what is more interesting to me is like at this point is somebody gives me money i give money to some guy who comes up with ideas with me with a bunch of fancy toys. I think I want to work with more synthesizers and real stuff. There's just so much that you can do in the DAW. I think that it's way more fun to tinker with things and to get people to play cello and get people to play saxophone versus just being like, okay, here's the Logic MIDI saxophone. That gets boring after some time. Yeah. You should just, okay, go to YouTube. Okay. You're going to want to search sidechanning. Sidechanning. About to change your life. This is like every first date I've been on. Everybody's like, you need, have you heard of busing? I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, actually, I don't bus anything. And they're like, how are you live? Well, Alex G didn't.

work with anyone else until his seventh album yeah which is kind of which is is the track that i'm on actually wait what yeah i've put out five albums that i made basically by myself oh i thought you meant you were on an alex g song oh no is the track yeah that was very misleading the train track the train no guys alex g has no idea who i am but what what i'd say is is that he did like at least half of those records on domino really the way are you are you sure oh you're You're right. You're right. Yeah, what Rocket is definitely on top of that. Dude, I swear like the Orca Tape shit was like at least like three albums in the shit that wasn't even on a label like before that. Alex G. Yeah. He had like hella albums that were just like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm released to Alex Grace. Ghost of the Animals is his seventh album. Which one? Ghost of the Animals is his seventh? Really? What? Check. Maybe do a number crunch, but yeah. That was the first album where he had someone else record him in a studio. Isaac worked on that album. Did he? Shout out, Isaac. I did not know that. I'm pretty sure. That might be fake news. We've got a number crunch that as well. Wait, so you... I mean, that would mean that... So, like, DSU is, like, kind of like the cutoff. Well, Trig is kind of the cutoff. Yeah. And then DSU, Beach Music, Rocket House of Sugar. Oh, Beach Music. No outside involvement. That's so crazy. Beach Music's crazy. Well, okay, better way of putting it, it's the first time he went into a studio and had someone else record him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Still, that's... It's amazing. It's still crazy. I mean, but I also, I would say, for me... God Save the Animals is maybe my favorite album of his. Damn. I disagree with that, but I can see. I'm with you, actually. I think it's... Wow. I re-listened to it in Taiwan. It's Trick and it's DSU, actually. No, DSU. DSU is obviously amazing, but... DSU is not at all. God Save the Animals is fucking crazy. Anyway, this isn't the... No, but I... What I like about Alex G is that... Everybody has different favorites because people have deep emotional attachments to these records. Oh, yeah. It's like some girl puts you on in high school and it's like you think about that album every day. Why would a girl put me on to it? I'm just always astounded. I'm sure a girl did not put you on to Alex G, but I was trying to be a feminist. I don't know.

i'm trying to i'm trying to bounce back after i said girls can't be pretty and funny wait so what's the good at lsu for you what's oh man i think it might be um it's probably rocket honestly i'm a rocket girl yeah yeah yeah i feel like for the you guys like fourth of july i feel like fourth of july is like kind of rocket core it's just got the the violins yeah the violins yeah oh man oh i love that he's like married to his violinist yeah it's like six or yeah yeah they have a kid but actually beautiful you you you know you said you like wouldn't want it to be clear through your music that you're like a funny person or anything yeah i don't want that it didn't they didn't really click me until we were talking about alex t except i never i've never really cared about who alex t is yeah but he doesn't put his his he is just like a musician yeah and that's it he doesn't like certain music you know regardless of i'm talking like music from before the social media era like you hear you can hear one song and you want to know who that person is you know which is funny because yeah his stuff is still like it's super like personal yeah yeah definitely it's deeply personal yeah yeah have you ever been on any of the reddit threads where they're kind of like speculating what different songs are about yeah i don't even care lxg read it but it's really yeah it's but it's interesting it's nice it's cool because you could say like his rise and his success is like purely meritocratic which seems so rare these days and he's just like such a transcendental songwriter it was a different time god level songwriter yeah it was a different time but i do think that I do still have hope that if someone's just making good music, people will hear it eventually. I think Cameron Winter in part is testament to that. I think Cameron Winter is a great example. But Cameron Winter did put in a lot of work with Geese. I never listened to that. And everybody was really highly anticipating his solo album because of Geese. Yeah, I never listened to that. So I was tangentially aware that they existed.

And actually, the first time, like, I heard, like, a little bit, like, a smattering of his music, like, beforehand. But it was in New York. We were all, like, staying together. And Rob put on his album, like, one day we were all, like, kind of, like, getting ready to go out. You know, like, really hitting the moment. Just girly stuff. Yeah. It's so nice. Yeah. It's sick. But the reason I thought he was, like, a bit older was just because I had been aware of that band. Yeah. Not that I've heard their music. Well, he's a New York kid, so I feel like it's, like, not fair, you know? A 22-year-old from New York is, like, 32, yeah. I completely agree. Yeah, like, you just have access to everything. Same with London kids. Yeah. London, really? Late night sandwiches. You got the inspiring view of the statue. You got Cats' Deli. The statue. You've got homeless people screaming on the street. Yes. Yeah, that's very inspiring. Yes. Yeah. They sell lobster bisque in the supermarkets. We're just ready to go. Yeah, which make you just feel normal. Yeah. For the fall episode, sub to Patriot on Geyser. Fake niggas. They do it all for the clout. Always running their mouth, but they've never been about. I splash niggas in and out. Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people They move like the groupies, them Sending shots or snap But in real life don't use their skank