Episode 42: "2MANYPJs" feat. Peach *PREVIEW — FULL EPISODE ON PATREON*

Cloudform. You are listening to the free version of Cloudform. Swear down. Bosh. If somebody asked me to pee on them, like, I'd do it. 100%. I'd just pee on you. Carpooling on, like, private jets, like, through Europe and stuff like that. Like, DJs, like, teaming up and then they'll all be on the private jet. Oh, my lifestyle's too lit. Is that too much? Do you see that Drake got the, like, fake abs? Is it hard to interact with floating points while fighting the urge to wedgie him? You know, like a stool sample? Why did you give a stool sample? Like Seesaw versus Slide. Lily Allen, who, of course, he matched with on Raya. You can cut that out. No, no, no, no. We're keeping it in, but I don't know. Oh, God, sorry. Have you been to Jollibee? Have you eaten Jollibee? Did you eat the spaghetti? I'm pissing into the catheter whilst I'm DJing, and you can just see the bag going up. Sawcraft fucking is dope. The journalistic integrity of Cloudflam strikes again. wait so you what at what point does like electronic music enter the fray if you were into pop punk and neutral milk hotel first um when i was like i mean the first time i really probably listened to like proper or any like electronic music was like in high school um when i and it was like steve aoki released that album the pillow like steve okay the pillow face chronicles and it was and it's just like a bunch of like edits and stuff like that and i got really into like steve aoki and i think the I actually think the entry point would have been Mastercraft, if you know who that is. Wait, wasn't one of them in... Death From Above. Yes, yes, yes. So one of them was in Death From Above, 1979. Fuck, I forgot about that band. And then through that, I got into Mastercraft, and then that led me, because they were on that album, and then I got into Steve Aoki through that, which then led me into the realm of EDM, and then I was in university partying, and people were like, should we go to Montreal?

go to a rave and go see mastercraft and like calvin harris and i was like yeah honestly wait so were you into like the hood incident yeah i was deeply on the blogs like gotta dance dirty and was that like in probably like an australian blog sorry i'm like getting really deep into blog house no this is this is like our territory for sure this is kind of i think where a lot of us had i wasn't into those blogs i was more into guitar music but like That era is what, like, that and, like, reading music magazine was, like, completely formative for me. Yeah. It felt like we kind of arrived at the same, not, like, quite, like, an origin point, but just, like, a divergent point or something in our kind of respected musical trajectories where if you take, like, Death From Above as, like, a node or whatever, you went, like, Mastercraft, Bloghouse, and then to, like, the larger kind of, like, electronic music type sphere. Yeah, I'm sure. We got kind of, like, guitar-y with it. Obviously, like... Where did you go from Death From Above? Where were you after Death From Above? Just got into kind of, like, classic, like, pitchfork era indie rock and stuff. Okay. The band, like, Women. Like, Rob's, like, a huge, like, Adam Collective head. Okay. Tom found out about Mac DeMarco two years ago, and that kind of, like, changed his life. Pretty much. Yeah. And then, yeah. That's, yeah. So tell us more about... the kind of formation of your musical identity i mean i don't know if that's the musical identity i'm at now but that was definitely the formation of like the formative years of you know i mean i think a lot of it was centered around like going to like going on trips to montreal i was going to school in ottawa which is the capital of canada it's like so Canadian that like there's a canal that runs through the whole city and it freezes over they let it freeze over and drain a bit of the water and like people skate on it to work like that kind of level of Canada and they sell like beaver tails not literal beaver tails but there's like a sweet pancake treat with like some cinnamon sugar on it on the on the water so like I was going to university there and then we were like taking like a two-hour bus to Montreal to go to like raves that people were throwing there and that was like in that era of like

yeah, your Mastercraft, your Brodinski, your Calvin Harris, Wolfgang Gartner, Fake Blood. Oh, wow. And like, yeah, there's lots of, I mean, I'm surprised Chad G.B. didn't get any of the pictures of like me at the rave at Fake Blood. No. Actually, thank God. How would we find those? For the green screen? For the green screen. Hopefully not. I mean, yeah, I mean, and that's a segue to me into like, you know, your Deadmau5. But I did have a big hate on for Deadmau5 for a long time, but. He's fucking sick. I would go to a Deadmau5 show right now. You can't hate. He's so rude, though. Yeah. A friend of mine slept with him, actually. In a sexual style? Yeah, yeah. In a sexy way. Not like a nap. Yeah, they had a really sweet nap together. Name names. Name names. I mean, there's no point in names. Floating points. Yeah, the floating points deadmau5 conversions. Wrist. Yeah. Was this around the era that you were so excited to see Buona, a.k.a. Nathan McKay tonight, at Bass Mentality? Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow! The rising tone was because there's an exclamation mark at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You were really excited. Yeah, he's one of my best friends, actually. Oh, crazy. He's a legend, man. He's still one of my best friends. I mean, now he's not really doing dance music stuff and just writing loads of music for like... He did Succession, right? HBO shows. No, he did Industry. He did Industry. There you go. Which, honestly, to be honest, I feel like realizing... like watching industry hearing his music in it made me realize how much how important music is to a tv show that like i can't even like actively watch like some other tv shows because of it now like what was that right because industry which otherwise would have been a great show was brought down by a soundtrack that's what you're saying i thought it was brought up by the soundtrack oh i thought it was like i thought it was met well by the soundtrack you know but if it had bad music i wouldn't have it wouldn't have enjoyed it right because there's like that really good there was like a kind of good like spy tv show that was kind of like Oh, what is it called? It was on like BBC recently. Was it Spies? Kind of good spy TV show. But no, but it was like, oh, who's that guy? Who's the guy that was like one of the Doctor Who? And he's like... David Tennant? No. Christopher Eccleston? No. Matt Smith? No. I don't want to admit that I know any more Doctor Whos. Those are the three. Wow. Wow. Maybe he wasn't in Doctor Who. He was also in Harry Potter. The like the one, the like Fantastic Beasts one.

oh my god narrow it down okay eddie redmond yeah so he's in it it's a tv show about him being like an assassin it's basically like the killing eve but he's like man bisexual no but it was actually it was actually kind of good but i couldn't bear to get through because the music was so fucking bad it was so like every bbc show it's kind of good yeah and wait this is because wanna soundtracked or not to be honest if nathan soundtracked i would have watched the rest of it probably because i mean You call him Nathan? Because, I mean, we're on Nate terms. Sorry. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, sorry, sorry. You'll get there. No, I mean, I called him this morning. I actually didn't tell him I was coming on a podcast, but he would love this. He's going to listen to it. I like his music. Yeah, I bet he really does. Do you think he could soundtrack this podcast? Oh, definitely. Some pads underneath right now as I'm talking. I think we could ask him, definitely. But have you guys watched Industry? Ricky from Industry lives near me. Really? He's a Wofford boy? He's a Howard boy. and by the guillotine bush you know nice i keep seeing him on the train and i want to be like bro you had the best episode but he does have the best episode but i don't want it to not be him and it become like when they just do uncut gems but it's in london pardon when it's like uncut gems but just in london yeah yeah yeah have you have you seen the show uh no you should watch it do you want me to comment yeah i think i think you should tell us what you imagine it's like uh industry what in what industry does it is it about though You don't know at all? You should guess. Yeah, just have a... Agricultural. Yeah, it's about fun. It's about fun. It's about us. Right, right, right. So there's a whole grain thrasher related injury drama. Someone falls into a fucking grain silo. A lot of it is like grain based. Would that be accurate? Yeah, you're 100% right. Yeah, they're like grain based punchlines. BBC and HBO's industry. Such as? Well, like a man falls into a pile of grain, like he suggested. A guy slips on a piece of grain. Yeah, and he says. He slips on a piece of grain. On a single grain. As a grain. All right, well, this is why we have media professionals on, so we can talk about show business. Exactly. And spoiled episodes of showbiz related.

material exactly i mean that was a huge spoiler for anyone listening i mean speaking of industry uh-huh an industry oh there's one that you worked in yes otherwise known as the industry depicted in the tv series madman yes uh speak to us of your days in in advertising in advertising so um it starts at i was actually working i was working at a bank full-time as a receptionist for the CFO and all of his like people around him and I hated it so much I actually ended up getting let go and I actually got let go I had quit because I got this job in marketing and it starts there only because I got this job in marketing I really wanted to work in it convince someone to hire me against all odds and I quit and the first thing I did was like write a Facebook post about how the only redeeming thing about working at the bank was the free pizza there we go that's not true that's not true that's not true there's another there's another tweet actually where she talks about being paid to be on soundcloud and just surf the inside that too that is what i was doing a lot of poor employment etiquette totally absolutely i learned i learned from that experience because basically that i like quit given my two weeks and then they like brought me into a room like the first day into my two weeks and they were like yeah we've um we've just seen this and they'd print it off my facebook status and it had Wait, that actually happened to you? This literally happened at the bank. I always thought that was like fake. I didn't think that actually happened to people. No, they printed off my Facebook status and they were like, unfortunately, we have to let you go sooner than your two weeks notice, but we are going to give it to you paid. because you've already quit. And I was like, okay. Wait, was that because of the SoundCloud thing? No, I opened it and it was because of the Facebook status I had made saying the only redeeming thing. I'm so excited to be out of like my personal hell and the only redeeming quality about working at the bank was the free pizza. I mean, you're also publicly tweeting things like another day where I sit at the reception desk and pretend to be doing work when I'm really just looking at everything on the internet. Hashtag life. The hashtag life is incredible. Your like ability with millennial...

tweet pros is yeah unbaralleled at google maps keep the pokemon feature forever please please no i mean that was definitely when the tweets were probably private and then they probably came off private oh wait actually well hang on when did they come off private you said in 2014 and that would have been in yeah but we've got dates 2014 was a busy year for your twitter oh wait so no here we go ah no no no no march 24th i took my tweets off private because who really cares at this point anyways right march 26th another day where i sit at the reception desk and present to be doing work well you can see i took the reception job really seriously yeah my brain was not stimulated i did i just i needed more i needed more so is this where you it's interesting so we'll get to it but is this where you did you kind of got to do a lot of your digging and like essentially like got your chops up as someone who's finding music online was through having the kind of millennial lifestyle subsidy jobs 10 years ago i'm just giving myself a little powder such interesting chat she's got powder no that was the job that we're talking about right now when i was like 24 was like i'd just gotten a job in marketing and then i wasn't even I wasn't DJing really then that much. I started DJing a little bit more in like 2025. I'd kind of like taken like a long, like a little bit of a break from it. And then I was just being like party girl, working in marketing. I thought that was my life, was just working in marketing. And because when I moved to London, it was for that same company. So I moved into this marketing job. And then I was working at this job. And then I was like really, really enjoying it, having like a good time. And like I climbed up like quite a lot. And I was like really close to the like. the main executive that was in the office in toronto and then when i i basically went on a trip to europe for the first time and i went to like deck mantle and then i went to burkhine for like 18 hours and i was like i love europe i'm gonna move here it was so classically north american went back and probably just like talked to everybody about how amazing europe is and was like so boring um and then pretty much like told my boss like i was gonna quit and i'm gonna move to europe and he was like well we don't want to lose you so let's just like keep you on and move you to london office

And I was like, well, I haven't actually been to London. He's like, why don't you go to London and like check it out? So I like did five days in London and five days in Berlin. And when I did the five days in London, it was like January. I was coming from minus 30. It was like 10 degrees here and raining. And I was like, winter is crazy here. It's so nice out. I was like wearing like, you know, like a leather jacket and like tights. And then I went to Berlin and it was like minus 10. And I got like rejected from Burkheim. And I was like, I was like, I'm. never coming back here i hate it here it's horrible and their winter is like eternal gray like cloud so so this so this is like pretty much your 10th anniversary of being here yeah next year is my my 10 year anniversary i'm gonna have a big party in a pub and everyone has to wear british flags or something wait so you but you never wanted to it just sort of worked out that way uh what move here yeah I wanted to move here. Like, I just wanted to. Or like London specifically. Yeah, I wanted to move to London. I basically, I decided between Berlin and London, I picked London because, also because the food in Berlin is trash. It was trash then and it's less trash now. Oh my God, you ever get like a German person like proselytizing their fucking kebabs? They're good, don't get me wrong. Like they're fine, yeah. But they'll, just the level of passion with which they'll just like, gosh at you. You guys have my sauerkraut? Sauerkraut fucking is dope. you know what what's the issue yeah no i mean there's no burping policy either by the way oh sorry i'm really sorry should i go outside this thing is over um are there any more uh countries that you want to shit on or country no just germany actually i mean i mean it's just mostly just i just think because most people live like in berlin but i just like could never do it it could never be me it's not the food's horrible and the You'd run into, it's too small. You run into so many people. I go there and everyone lives in like the same, everyone lives in like basically the vicinity of like Victoria Park. Yeah, it's called a community. We don't all want to live in these atomized little silos. Okay, you were talking about Amsterdam being too small before this. All right. Yeah, but I have prospects. Prospects of living in Amsterdam.

Yeah, I can move backwards, I suppose. That's a prospect. I suppose. Begrudgingly, I guess. I did read some interview where you were talking about, and maybe that's something that we, like me, Rob, Dom kind of take for granted, how you, when you initially moved to London, you were kind of like taking it back. Or maybe you like visited before moving over and you realized that you could see all these DJs that would otherwise kind of only be there where you were super like periodically and that they would just be playing in your words like on a Thursday night. yeah that was like super like eye opening no it was crazy i mean when i moved here and i was like there was lots of djs that i could just see play on any given weekend that would literally never come to canada but that's also just because like i mean canada's far it's expensive and like now that i like see the like dj community at large like you can't just like pop over to north america to go like play a tour but like here there's like such a good little you know circuit you can like run through the uk at like and like see DJs that are, like, coming up that you might be interested in, but you would never, ever see them in Canada. I mean, it's, like, the amount of times I tried to see, like, Ricardo Villalobos, and he just, like, would never show up. I mean, he doesn't show up here either, but... I would love to... I'm not, like, a big techno head in the slightest, but, yeah, that would be... I didn't realize he had, like, a track record of bailing on shows. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, like, part of his lore? That's part of the vibe. Okay. Like, he will... I've tried to see him at Fabric, like, the last, like, three times, and he, like... hasn't shown up. But he's what? He has to be in his 50s at this point, surely. Yeah, something like that. When you want to go to Fabric, do you buy a ticket? No. I just text the people at Fabric. Finally a relatable guest, dude. Dude, it's taken us so long. Okay. Can we come to your party? Do you think you would like... Yes, absolutely. You have endless forever guest lists now. Do you think you would like to go to Fabric if you didn't get to be behind the dice?

i do go to fabric when i'm out behind the decks but i do have a green room yeah i was gonna say at the air yeah yeah it's i do they like pat you down in the same way as well yeah they do yeah they do they're quite it's intense it's intense they're very serious about it there yeah you know when was the last time you went to fabric never you should come i just have i've heard the airport security thing should i though as a punter yeah you guys come no but next time i play you guys civilian i lost one there two years ago and i don't know just feels weird i'll get you the green room and then we can go like hang out in there and you can see all the people i mean that should be off the record probably but yeah no that's probably illegal no i reckon we'll loop that out yeah Yeah, yeah. We're trying to get fabric shut down again. Oh, true. That's the mission of this one. Yeah, well then, I guess you gotta keep it in then. Don't keep me in it. Maybe just like blurb me out or something. Yeah. We'll pull up the photos of you at the fake blood rave. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Perfect. And put those over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Tweak in. Oh, is that what you were doing in those photos? Is it like jaw swinging? Probably. Yeah, that's rough. This is being recorded, you realize. Fake niggas. They do it all for the clouts. Always running their mouth. But they've never been about. I splash niggas. In and out. In and out. Clout is killing our people. They do it for U-K-L. Clout is killing our people. They do it for U-D-N. Clout is killing our people. They move like the groupies, them. Sending shots or snap, but in real life don't use this gang. You know who likes special entertainment like that? My mom!